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	<title>Comments on: Dave Thomas talks about Ruby at Amazon</title>
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		<title>By: gabriele renzi</title>
		<link>http://blog.robotcoop.com/2004/10/09/dave-thomas-talks-about-ruby-at-amazon/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>gabriele renzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#8217;m dumb but I did not understand: how happened that dave gave this talk?&#60;br /&#62;
Did he call up amazon saying &#8220;guys I&#8217;ve got thus funny thing I &#60;strong&#62;have&#60;/strong&#62; to show you!&#8221; ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m dumb but I did not understand: how happened that dave gave this talk?&lt;br /&gt;<br />
Did he call up amazon saying &#8220;guys I&#8217;ve got thus funny thing I &lt;strong&gt;have&lt;/strong&gt; to show you!&#8221; ?</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Benson</title>
		<link>http://blog.robotcoop.com/2004/10/09/dave-thomas-talks-about-ruby-at-amazon/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazon regularly has people come by and give talks.  I think Dave was going around doing a bunch of talks about Ruby, and Amazon sort of fit into his schedule.  That&#8217;s my guess at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon regularly has people come by and give talks.  I think Dave was going around doing a bunch of talks about Ruby, and Amazon sort of fit into his schedule.  That&#8217;s my guess at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Thomas</title>
		<link>http://blog.robotcoop.com/2004/10/09/dave-thomas-talks-about-ruby-at-amazon/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I looked at the web services interface many times, and I&#8217;m sure that there was a problem which meant I couldn&#8217;t get a sales rank&#8212;perhaps it was the terms of use?&#60;br /&#62;
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In terms of not understanding the pain that they&#8217;re going through there&#8212;I think I take exception to that. I&#8217;ve been developing software for more years than I care to remember, and I&#8217;ve participated in many painful projects, at all levels. I fully understand the issues that these develoeprs face.&#60;br /&#62;
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By why make the comment? At no point did I say &#8220;rewrite Amazon in Ruby.&#8221; Instead, I presented a language that has a different way of looking at things. The folks in the audience are free to decide whether any of these ways have merit. Knowing Ruby changes the way I write Java. Perhaps seeing some of the stuff I presented might inspire one or two people to change the way they write C++ or Java too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I looked at the web services interface many times, and I&#8217;m sure that there was a problem which meant I couldn&#8217;t get a sales rank&#8212;perhaps it was the terms of use?&lt;br /&gt;<br />
&lt;br /&gt;<br />
In terms of not understanding the pain that they&#8217;re going through there&#8212;I think I take exception to that. I&#8217;ve been developing software for more years than I care to remember, and I&#8217;ve participated in many painful projects, at all levels. I fully understand the issues that these develoeprs face.&lt;br /&gt;<br />
&lt;br /&gt;<br />
By why make the comment? At no point did I say &#8220;rewrite Amazon in Ruby.&#8221; Instead, I presented a language that has a different way of looking at things. The folks in the audience are free to decide whether any of these ways have merit. Knowing Ruby changes the way I write Java. Perhaps seeing some of the stuff I presented might inspire one or two people to change the way they write C++ or Java too.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Benson</title>
		<link>http://blog.robotcoop.com/2004/10/09/dave-thomas-talks-about-ruby-at-amazon/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dave.  I agree with you 100%.  I apologize for misrepresenting your experience with these large projects&#8230; I guess I was really just trying to say that even though you never said to rewrite Amazon in Ruby, many of the questions were built on that premise.  Many of the people in the audience were thinking, &#8220;how can we use Ruby to solve Amazon&#8217;s challenges?&#8221;  Mostly because the way they think about problems is to a large extent framed by the problems they face when working on the Amazon website.&#60;br /&#62;
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I think the talk went really well and that ultimately you did get across some of the interesting ways that Ruby changes the way you write and think, regardless of language.  We&#8217;re definitely continuing to use Ruby over here&#8230;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dave.  I agree with you 100%.  I apologize for misrepresenting your experience with these large projects&#8230; I guess I was really just trying to say that even though you never said to rewrite Amazon in Ruby, many of the questions were built on that premise.  Many of the people in the audience were thinking, &#8220;how can we use Ruby to solve Amazon&#8217;s challenges?&#8221;  Mostly because the way they think about problems is to a large extent framed by the problems they face when working on the Amazon website.&lt;br /&gt;<br />
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I think the talk went really well and that ultimately you did get across some of the interesting ways that Ruby changes the way you write and think, regardless of language.  We&#8217;re definitely continuing to use Ruby over here&#8230;</p>
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