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		<title>By: dunsany</title>
		<link>http://blog.robotcoop.com/2005/02/08/on-background/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>dunsany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, I wholeheartedly agree that not only is the Salon piece a huge distortion but also that reporters in general love to jump to sexy conclusions (that sell content) and then skew the facts as they see fit.  I&#8217;ve seen it happen far too many times to count.  And just a personal note to stand tall.  Going the way of the amateur means your going to be recipient a lot of slings and arrows. As long as you realize what you want to accomplish, you win&#8230; regardless of fame or fortune.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, I wholeheartedly agree that not only is the Salon piece a huge distortion but also that reporters in general love to jump to sexy conclusions (that sell content) and then skew the facts as they see fit.  I&#8217;ve seen it happen far too many times to count.  And just a personal note to stand tall.  Going the way of the amateur means your going to be recipient a lot of slings and arrows. As long as you realize what you want to accomplish, you win&#8230; regardless of fame or fortune.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Ruscica</title>
		<link>http://blog.robotcoop.com/2005/02/08/on-background/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Ruscica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#8217;ve got to be going the CLLCS route&#8230;&lt;br /&gt;
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See my site to learn what it will take to be a pure-play disruptor&#8230;&lt;br /&gt;
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In particular, see the comic premise&#8230;&lt;br /&gt;
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Don&#8217;t know if Amazon will go for it, but, then again, Amazon probably does sell a lot of copies of Jenna Jameson&#8217;s bio&#8230;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;ve got to be going the CLLCS route&#8230;&lt;br /&gt;<br />
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See my site to learn what it will take to be a pure-play disruptor&#8230;&lt;br /&gt;<br />
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In particular, see the comic premise&#8230;&lt;br /&gt;<br />
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Don&#8217;t know if Amazon will go for it, but, then again, Amazon probably does sell a lot of copies of Jenna Jameson&#8217;s bio&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard MacManus</title>
		<link>http://blog.robotcoop.com/2005/02/08/on-background/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard MacManus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep up the great work guys. You&#8217;re making to come alive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep up the great work guys. You&#8217;re making to come alive!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard MacManus</title>
		<link>http://blog.robotcoop.com/2005/02/08/on-background/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard MacManus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um, that was supposed to read: you&#8217;re making it come alive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um, that was supposed to read: you&#8217;re making it come alive!</p>
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		<title>By: Benny Styles</title>
		<link>http://blog.robotcoop.com/2005/02/08/on-background/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>Benny Styles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#8220;If the beginning is when you sit down with friends and decide to start a company, Amazon wasn&#8217;t there at the beginning&#8221;&lt;br /&gt;
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That&#8217;s disingenuous. The founders are ex-Amazon employees so they were using money they made at Amazon from the very start.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#8220;Along the way, friends at Amazon heard me out on some of my ideas, but all was very casual at this point&#8221;&lt;br /&gt;
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Casual? What does that mean? They were wearing jeans instead of a suit?&lt;br /&gt;
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Going forward Amazon may not define what you are doing but they will certainly own a part of it, won&#8217;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the beginning is when you sit down with friends and decide to start a company, Amazon wasn&rsquo;t there at the beginning&#8221;&lt;br /&gt;<br />
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That&#8217;s disingenuous. The founders are ex-Amazon employees so they were using money they made at Amazon from the very start.&lt;br /&gt;<br />
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&#8220;Along the way, friends at Amazon heard me out on some of my ideas, but all was very casual at this point&#8221;&lt;br /&gt;<br />
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Casual? What does that mean? They were wearing jeans instead of a suit?&lt;br /&gt;<br />
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Going forward Amazon may not define what you are doing but they will certainly own a part of it, won&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Petersen</title>
		<link>http://blog.robotcoop.com/2005/02/08/on-background/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benny &#8211; I used money I made at Amazon.com to buy the car I drove to go to work at Microsoft. Does that turn Microsoft into an Amazon front?  Nope.  It means people have jobs, and sometimes they change companies or start new projects.  &lt;br /&gt;
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I was working at Microsoft just prior to starting 43 Things, so using your logic, the claim ought to be that I used Microsoft money to start 43 Things.  &lt;br /&gt;
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You can&#8217;t win an argument with conspiracy theorists, because the &#8220;truth&#8221; is all part of the conspiracy!  We&#8217;re trying to share some details here that weren&#8217;t covered for you in the press accounts you might have read.  If you are convinced by what you read in the media and aren&#8217;t interested in our account of how this came together &#8211; so be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benny &#8211; I used money I made at Amazon.com to buy the car I drove to go to work at Microsoft. Does that turn Microsoft into an Amazon front?  Nope.  It means people have jobs, and sometimes they change companies or start new projects.  &lt;br /&gt;<br />
&lt;br /&gt;<br />
I was working at Microsoft just prior to starting 43 Things, so using your logic, the claim ought to be that I used Microsoft money to start 43 Things.  &lt;br /&gt;<br />
&lt;br /&gt;<br />
You can&#8217;t win an argument with conspiracy theorists, because the &#8220;truth&#8221; is all part of the conspiracy!  We&#8217;re trying to share some details here that weren&#8217;t covered for you in the press accounts you might have read.  If you are convinced by what you read in the media and aren&#8217;t interested in our account of how this came together &#8211; so be it.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Post</title>
		<link>http://blog.robotcoop.com/2005/02/08/on-background/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benny, just wanted you to know that I used Kinkos money to pay for college, guess that means that my degree is a front for kinkos?&lt;br /&gt;
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Please give me a break&#8230;Robot Co-op, your work speaks for itself. You&#8217;ve inspired myself to do the same, build a product and a company based on what you love to do. Kudos to you guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benny, just wanted you to know that I used Kinkos money to pay for college, guess that means that my degree is a front for kinkos?&lt;br /&gt;<br />
&lt;br /&gt;<br />
Please give me a break&#8230;Robot Co-op, your work speaks for itself. You&#8217;ve inspired myself to do the same, build a product and a company based on what you love to do. Kudos to you guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Spils</title>
		<link>http://blog.robotcoop.com/2005/02/08/on-background/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Spils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benny &#8211; &lt;br /&gt;
I sheetrocked and wired my basement as the first office for The Robot Co-op. I wrote the checks for materials and borrowed my neighbor&#8217;s plumbing skills to get things rolling. I won&#8217;t expand any further on this funding bravado or I&#8217;ll end up telling stories like, &#8220;when I was a kid we were so poor that we funded startups by selling our own fillings&#8221;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Seriously, I&#8217;ve had many jobs in the past and spent the two years prior to starting The Robot Co-op touring as the keyboardist for Maktub and opening a nightclub. Probably like you, I&#8217;ve been making a living by working for the past 20 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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Amazon has invested in The Robot Co-op and we think this is a great thing. But we&#8217;re still doing what we did in my basement: making it up and making it happen &#8230; all on our own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benny &#8211; &lt;br /&gt;<br />
I sheetrocked and wired my basement as the first office for The Robot Co-op. I wrote the checks for materials and borrowed my neighbor&#8217;s plumbing skills to get things rolling. I won&#8217;t expand any further on this funding bravado or I&#8217;ll end up telling stories like, &#8220;when I was a kid we were so poor that we funded startups by selling our own fillings&#8221;.&lt;br /&gt;<br />
&lt;br /&gt;<br />
Seriously, I&#8217;ve had many jobs in the past and spent the two years prior to starting The Robot Co-op touring as the keyboardist for Maktub and opening a nightclub. Probably like you, I&#8217;ve been making a living by working for the past 20 years.&lt;br /&gt;<br />
&lt;br /&gt;<br />
Amazon has invested in The Robot Co-op and we think this is a great thing. But we&#8217;re still doing what we did in my basement: making it up and making it happen &#8230; all on our own.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris C</title>
		<link>http://blog.robotcoop.com/2005/02/08/on-background/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright&#8230; so Amazon is investing in your company. To me, it&#8217;s seems obvious they&#8217;re doing it for the information(what else would they do it for?)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, they do it because they are a company who makes money and such information will help them make more of it. It&#8217;s a win &#8211; win situation for both of you.&lt;br /&gt;
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You guys are amateurs, that&#8217;s fine. But is Amazon.com?&lt;br /&gt;
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When Amazon or you don&#8217;t release information which heightens the mystery, do you think the people who are drawing conclusions are wrong for making them?&lt;br /&gt;
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Your idea/work is great but when people think you&#8217;ve taken advantage of their trust you&#8217;re going to get backlash.&lt;br /&gt;
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I guess, to summarize my thoughts, I wish you had publicized something as huge as &#8220;we have an investor&#8221; and not planned to &lt;em&gt;put it off for a month&lt;/em&gt; either from being busy or anything else.&lt;br /&gt;
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By the way, thanks for letting us post this type of stuff out in the open in a very honest fashion, kudos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright&#8230; so Amazon is investing in your company. To me, it&#8217;s seems obvious they&#8217;re doing it for the information(what else would they do it for?)&lt;br /&gt;<br />
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Yeah, they do it because they are a company who makes money and such information will help them make more of it. It&#8217;s a win &#8211; win situation for both of you.&lt;br /&gt;<br />
&lt;br /&gt;<br />
You guys are amateurs, that&#8217;s fine. But is Amazon.com?&lt;br /&gt;<br />
&lt;br /&gt;<br />
When Amazon or you don&#8217;t release information which heightens the mystery, do you think the people who are drawing conclusions are wrong for making them?&lt;br /&gt;<br />
&lt;br /&gt;<br />
Your idea/work is great but when people think you&#8217;ve taken advantage of their trust you&#8217;re going to get backlash.&lt;br /&gt;<br />
&lt;br /&gt;<br />
I guess, to summarize my thoughts, I wish you had publicized something as huge as &#8220;we have an investor&#8221; and not planned to &lt;em&gt;put it off for a month&lt;/em&gt; either from being busy or anything else.&lt;br /&gt;<br />
&lt;br /&gt;<br />
By the way, thanks for letting us post this type of stuff out in the open in a very honest fashion, kudos.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://blog.robotcoop.com/2005/02/08/on-background/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#8217;s your chance to be really clear. HOW MUCH has Amazon invested? Are they minority investors? Do they own 100%? Who really owns 43things?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s your chance to be really clear. HOW MUCH has Amazon invested? Are they minority investors? Do they own 100%? Who really owns 43things?</p>
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